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Old 03-01-13, 03:07 PM
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I thought it was watermelon. My mom says it some kind of weed.



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is that not a previously disadvantaged watermelon ?

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Got the leaves like a watermelon...I would say it is, just immature perhaps?

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Looks like the kalahari tsamma

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There is a name for this that I don't think I would like to publish publically, as I might be persecuted for a certain section in the name.

It is indeed a type of watermelon, but it does not become sweet like the normal watermelons that we know/buy.

These are very common on the farms in the Northern part of the West Coast - they are common on the farmlands.
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Looks like the kalahari tsamma
Hi Stevan - yes. This is similar to the Kalahari Tsamma.
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It's a BEE watermelon!

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Ek ken dit as 'n karkoer


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PS: they make "jam" from the plant's fruit! (the watermelon looking fruit).
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PS: they make "jam" from the plant's fruit! (the watermelon looking fruit).
From what I have heard it is or was called " Sam's jam" in Namibia for a while
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I thought it was watermelon. My mom says it some kind of weed.



I also know it as a Tsamma.
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Karkoer ja ... en Swambo stem saam

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Ken dit as n bitter boela. Kan nogal n stuk grond vervuil.

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Die plant het paar name in verskillende tale sien ek. T'sama is die khoi-san weergawe, makkataan in Sotho en in die vorige bedeling was dit ook 'n kafferwaatlemoen genoem
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Ken dit as n bitter boela. Kan nogal n stuk grond vervuil.
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When it is ripe it is much yellower - a friend who grew watermelons gave me one and I had no idea that it wasn't the pink one. Got a shock, but then I realised afterwards that she makes jam with them.

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Lyk my verskillende areas het verskillende naam. Die ouens in die Kaap het hom seker geproe voordat hulle hom 'n bitter boela genoem het
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During the dry season many Kalahari animals eat this to survive.
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We knew it as a pigmellon,but commonly known as a k.....mellon.Good for mellon jams.If u on a survival situation u can eat it like waiting for swambo to cook u supper.

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Citrullus lanatus



(Thunb.) Matsum. & Nakai
Family : Cucurbitaceae
Common names : tsamma melon, wild watermelon (Eng.); bitterboela, bitterwaatlemoen, karkoer (Afr.); t'sama (Khoisan); makataan (Tswana)



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is that not a (previously) presently disadvantaged watermelon ?
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n Oujongkerel word hier by ons n t'sama genoem, want hy gaan dood met sy saad in hom.
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Tsamma/karkoer en n waatlemoen/makataan is nie dieselfde ding nie. Die een lyk meer na n makataan vir my.

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Why are you all so ashamed, everyone knew it was call a Kafer wartlemon. Before anyone goes bos here "Kafer" is a well known name and with no ref to the prev dis advantaged (it meant indigenious to the land and Dutch in slang). If you do research you get to know that. Its the same as Kafer Kuils Rivier in Stilbay (but some took offence to this, know its known as Gouko River). Why do we keep quite when our prev dis adv brothers keep changing names without understanding what it means and costing the Nation Billions, let alone the private companies who have to change business details.... Before this site goes BOS, its my personal sentiment.

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I agree with Morton and it is not politics. One of the names were Kafferwaatlemoen.
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I am assuming that few of these posts won't make it till tonight.

But here is my thoughts, back then it might just have been a descriptive word to describe people of a certain grouping. But unfortunately in the end it was used straight forward derogatory term and hence the offensiveness of it.

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Makataan ,word gebruik vir die basis vir konfyt,of dan die heel stukke.

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I was just staing a fact and not trying to bring politics into it. We should be VERY proud of our democracy and not shy away from indigenious names. If you ride thru PTA now almost every street name is changed. So folks I was not trying to step on any toes here. So explain to me that when you go to a live comedy show black and white comedians use the name Kafer and everyone laughs. We should love our heritage and live with it. I for one don't get upset when called a rooinek/whitey etc. Its is taken in the mood the words are used and directed. Some of my best friends are from ALL race groups and we all joke about our heritage. Sorry if I offened anyone

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Many plants have species names of caffra (Erythryna caffra, Aciacia caffra). Some plants have the colloquial name of k@ffir whatever. This all comes from Caffraria or Kaffraria, which was the name given to the east coast of South Africa in the early 1800's.

Hardly a racial or political discussion in respect of plants... so perhaps we can stick to the actual topic, and the request for a plant ID

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That's a bitter boela. It's too bitter to cook jam with. Maketaan or k@fferwaatlemoen (as previously called) is used for jam and looks more like waatlemoen, maybe a bit smaller with white(ish) "flesh". Maketaan is in fact a wild watermelon. BItter boela and maketaan is family but I grew up knowing them as two separate things...

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i was just staing a fact and not trying to bring politics into it. We should be very proud of our democracy and not shy away from indigenious names. If you ride thru pta now almost every street name is changed. So folks i was not trying to step on any toes here. So explain to me that when you go to a live comedy show black and white comedians use the name kafer and everyone laughs. We should love our heritage and live with it. I for one don't get upset when called a rooinek/whitey etc. Its is taken in the mood the words are used and directed. Some of my best friends are from all race groups and we all joke about our heritage. Sorry if i offened anyone

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I have a few of these flowering, they just last a day and then die off. From the cacti species Echinopsis sp family
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